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Movies That Feel "Different" When You Watch Them as Adults
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Movies That Feel "Different" When You Watch Them as Adults
Picture This: You're watching an old movie that you originally saw as a kid. It feels "different". You notice stuff that you didn't originally see. That's what this thread is about.

All Dogs Go to Heaven: Lots of people think that this film is too scary for kids due to all the stuff about eternal Hellfire. In my opinion, that stuff is scarier when you are an adult ... since most Christians Agree that children can't go to Hell.

A Bug's Life: In a previous thread, I stated that the film isn't supposed to be a political allegory. I stand by that. However, I will admit that the story looks a bit like a political allegory at times. The film ends with what kinda looks like a socialist uprising.

Antz: This one is similar to A Bug's Life. It probably isn't a political allegory, but it looks like one at times. I love it when mandible says "I am the colony!" near the film's climax. Mussolini was infamous for declaring "The state is me!" Coincidence? Maybe not. Mandible really comes across as a eugenicist.

Small Soldiers: The film is (apparently) supposed to parody G.I. Joe and the message that he sends to impressionable young boys. This went right over my head when I was a kid.

The Hunchback of Norte Dame: Frollo is a fundie and a Nazi rolled into one. How did they mange to do this in a film aimed at kids?

Beauty and the Beast: Every scene with Gaston in it is chilling when you are an adult. Lots of men actually talk like that in real life. *shudder*

The Lion King: This one is far worse when you watch it as an adult ... and you can see the major problems with the plot. The film is basically a pro-monarchy film that hides its moral failings beneath animals stereotypes. I'll use the hyenas as an example. Their anger towards Simba is understandable, since the lions have turned the hyenas into second-class citizens. Overall, it's hard to watch The Lion King after watching Zootopia because Zootopia tears apart animal stereotypes ... whereas The Lion King Relies upon them.

Shrek: The film feels very different when you realize that Lord Farquad is based on Michael Eisner and the whole film is a parody of Disney.

Finding Nemo: Marlin's neurotic behavior is easier to understand when you are an adult.
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In Lion King, the top 1% (the lions) survive by eating their subjects. Yet they still cheer at Simba's birth...

Just like in a real monarchy...

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A few Christmas specials are rather different when viewing them when you are older. The most notable are Rudolph which seems to have the moral that if you are different then society will never accept you unless you serve some purpose that fits its selfish needs. Serious, did everyone REALLY learn to like Rudolph at the end or were they just pretending because they loved Christmas so much? Some of the things the others did to Rudolph were horrible! Then there's Frosty where the kids basically steal the magician's hat and the narrator has to literally remind the viewers that the kids were the bad guys and people forget that part. Sure the magician goes a bit too far by melting Frosty but all he wanted was his hat which the brats refused to give back. The hat was after all rightfully his and not the kids'. This just tells kids that finder's keepers is a perfect excuse not to give something that doesn't belong to you back to its rightful owner.

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Aliens scared the absolute shit out of me as a child, partly because I missed the first hour of it and I didn't know that Lance Henriksen's character was an android.

I first saw Tetsuo: The Iron Man as a teenager, and the very obvious homoerotic subtext completely escaped me. I was a late developer in that respect though.

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Frosty was so messed up with its message. Literally no one in that special even felt bad for the magician. Not even Santa! Santa could have given back the hat to its rightful owner and give Frosty a new hat still with magic powers but nooooooooo. The a-hole writers still made the magician to be the bad guy and have Santa berate him for trying to take back his property. And the kids never got reprimanded for refusing to return what was never even theirs to begin with to its true owner.

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(01-26-2017 07:02 PM)Walker! Wrote:  In Lion King, the top 1% (the lions) survive by eating their subjects. Yet they still cheer at Simba's birth...

Just like in a real monarchy...

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I liked the Home Alone movies as a kid. As an adult, I understand why my mother was so haggard by these movies. They're absolutely stupid and completely unbelievable.
First of all, there's nothing remotely funny in the movie until the criminals try to break into the house. It's just an hour of nothing. Then, we see two of the world's best criminals falling for tricks that are completely obvious. How about when Daniel Stern's character was climbing up the stairs with the tar? He had to have seen the nail on the one step and know what was going on, or at least understand that something was afoot (no pun intended) when the tar took away his shoes and socks. You're telling me they didn't see the cars on the floor when they tripped over them? Also, what message are we sending kids here? That if your house is broken into by criminals it's wrong to call the police and let them handle it and it's right to set up traps that only an idiot would fall for to capture them? I wonder if someone's house actually was burgled because kids took its message too seriously, and the second movie was even worse. You mean these crooks are so stupid that they fell for the same tricks twice? They were stupid enough to steal money from a cash register that was out in the open and they were surprised when someone took their picture? Daniel Stern's character got hit on the head so many times by the brick, and he didn't suffer permanent brain damage? Those crooks could have been killed by any of those tricks, or at least permanently maimed, but they survived them all and were walking around fine by the end of the movie. God those movies were awful!

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(01-27-2017 06:20 AM)JWB Wrote:  I liked the Home Alone movies as a kid. As an adult, I understand why my mother was so haggard by these movies. They're absolutely stupid and completely unbelievable.
First of all, there's nothing remotely funny in the movie until the criminals try to break into the house. It's just an hour of nothing. Then, we see two of the world's best criminals falling for tricks that are completely obvious. How about when Daniel Stern's character was climbing up the stairs with the tar? He had to have seen the nail on the one step and know what was going on, or at least understand that something was afoot (no pun intended) when the tar took away his shoes and socks. You're telling me they didn't see the cars on the floor when they tripped over them? Also, what message are we sending kids here? That if your house is broken into by criminals it's wrong to call the police and let them handle it and it's right to set up traps that only an idiot would fall for to capture them? I wonder if someone's house actually was burgled because kids took its message too seriously, and the second movie was even worse. You mean these crooks are so stupid that they fell for the same tricks twice? They were stupid enough to steal money from a cash register that was out in the open and they were surprised when someone took their picture? Daniel Stern's character got hit on the head so many times by the brick, and he didn't suffer permanent brain damage? Those crooks could have been killed by any of those tricks, or at least permanently maimed, but they survived them all and were walking around fine by the end of the movie. God those movies were awful!

I've only seen the first Home Alone movie. That movie is full of cruel and unusual punishment. That's my main problem with it.

Home Alone is basically a kid-friendly version of Saw. Perhaps the Jigsaw Killer was actually Kevin this whole time.
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(01-27-2017 01:38 PM)HammerBioLizard Wrote:  That movie is full of cruel and unusual punishment.

Technically incorrect. The kid was defending his life and property. He wan't, as far as I am aware, a member of the judiciary.

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(01-27-2017 05:59 PM)Grey Area Wrote:  
(01-27-2017 01:38 PM)HammerBioLizard Wrote:  That movie is full of cruel and unusual punishment.

Technically incorrect. The kid was defending his life and property. He wan't, as far as I am aware, a member of the judiciary.

I still think that Home Alone was missing a crucial scene.

One of the robbers wakes up in the cellar with the reverse bear trap on his head. He hears Kevin's voice. "The key is inside Marv's stomach."
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