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"Only Two Gender Options"
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HammerBioLizard Offline
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"Only Two Gender Options"
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Is this a big deal? I honestly don't know at this point, since modern "gamer feminism" is indistinguishable from parody.

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03-06-2017 03:47 PM
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RE: "Only Two Gender Options"
I wasn't going to buy a Switch anyway.

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03-06-2017 10:16 PM
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Perhaps SJWs will prefer this game.
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03-08-2017 03:21 PM
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RE: "Only Two Gender Options"
I'm not familiar with recent Nintendo hardware. Is that screen from the Mii creator, or do they ask for the user's gender when they create a user account on the console?

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03-10-2017 02:09 AM
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RE: "Only Two Gender Options"
I'm pretty certain the ones in the original post are just parody. Trans people don't always need to specify which is their biological gender. They just want to be allowed to identify as the one they identify as.

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03-10-2017 12:00 PM
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RE: "Only Two Gender Options"
Ugh, I just noticed this topic, and it's ten days old and politics so maybe I shouldn't respond but people are wrong on the internet and this is an issue that's important to me and that I've been thinking about recently, so responding anyways.

Two issues:
1. Non-binary people exist. It's not a political thing, that's just how certain people's brains are wired. (How would you like it if people treated being autistic as some sort of parody political thing?) Even if you're not convinced that's the case, just adding an "other" option is way easier (for the people who actually make the thing) than arguing and making fun of and turning it into a political issue. If there are people uncomfortable with identifying as male or female, you've just made their (our?) lives better; if not, then it's an unused feature not causing any problems.
2. There are people who have legitimate reasons not to reveal their gender. For one, sexism exists; one advantage of the internet is that it's easy to interact with people without revealing one's gender. For another, closeted trans people exist; they have the choice between choosing their actual gender and outing themselves to family etc., and choosing a gender that doesn't represent them.

That said, it could be worse. Your mii doesn't have to be the same gender as you (even for binary cis people), I think at least on Wii U changing one's mii's gender and making miis that clearly look like a different gender than you specified are both possible. Pokémon probably should be asking what character you want to play as rather than what gender you are, but other than that it's even less of an issue because your character is even less representing you and just picking whichever you think looks better is perfectly valid.

(Edit to add: Also I wouldn't be surprised if there are people trying to advocate for adding other gender options and doing so in ways worthy of criticism and ridicule. Judge the people, not the issues. Every issue has unreasonable people supporting it.)

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03-20-2017 07:47 AM
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^Thanks Chridd. Great, well thought out response.
03-20-2017 10:34 AM
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there are also some non-european cultures that have more than two genders (they wouldn't call themselves non-binary, just whatever the other gender is) and people all over the world play nintendo.

but yeah I find it annoying when places list "transgender" as a gender option since most of us are either women or men and even when we're not that doesn't make "transgender" their gender. a non-binary/other category would take care of it. even better if you give people the option to fill it in rather than trying to list 1000 choices in that category. another option would be to just default to not asking or listing your gender.

this is such an easy thing to do that it's hard to fault those complaining because the easiness means that if it matters even a little nintendo should do it.
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03-20-2017 12:25 PM
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RE: "Only Two Gender Options"
Also, I've noticed that there are only two sets of controls on the console. What about people with three arms?!!!!

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03-20-2017 09:36 PM
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(03-20-2017 09:36 PM)Luke Mauser Wrote:  Also, I've noticed that there are only two sets of controls on the console. What about people with three arms?!!!!

I hate to break this to you Luke, but that third appendage you have..... isn't an arm.
03-20-2017 09:50 PM
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